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    Posted: 30 Mar 2016 at 9:28am

the clutch went out on my 5020 a couple of years ago, and it became one of those projects I never got to.  finally brought it in the other dark to start the project.  tractor has been sitting exterior.  On the left side of the clutch housing is a large inspection pigsty.  Discovered that the housing was filled with water.  Checked the parts book, information technology doesn't prove a plug or anything for this hole.  I had never worried much almost it, figured whatever water that got in would run out the lesser, just at that place doesn't seem to exist any opening in the bottom of the housing.  so, couple of questions......do whatever other 5020 owners take a plug in this hole?......and what would exist incorrect with adding a drain hole to the bottom of the housing when i accept it apart??  you can see the hole in the pic below.


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Post Options Mail Options Thanks (0) Thanks(0) Quote Dale East Tn QuotePost ReplyAnswer Direct Link To This Post Posted: thirty Mar 2016 at half dozen:31pm

I take a 1980 5020 it doesn't accept the hole in the bell housing my brother has a 5020 I checked with him and his doesn't have a pigsty in his bong housing.

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Simply checked, mine don't gots it either

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hmmmm.....and then is your housing solid at that spot, or is there a knockout or soft plug in that location??  i'll have to put a plug of some sorts in mine.  in the movie below, you lot can see the hole from the inside of the housing, and there'southward some other pics.  its a flake ugly in there.  the clutch disc really looks OK, thickness wise. i call up my problem wasn't the clutch itself, but either the pressure plate was rusted stuck or everything was rusted to the shaft and wouldn't motion.

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A quick wait at the Parts volume shows that they didn't add the famous vibrating cotter key
to the early tractors, I's sure be calculation one before putting it back together!!!

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joe, i merely took a look at the parts book......its the offset i've heard of this.....tell me a fleck more....

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Alan, well-nigh every tractor manufacturer always drilled a hole in the bottom of the clutch housing and and so  put a cotter pin in the hole with a loose fit afterwards bending so that the vibrations and motion of it would keep the pigsty open then any oil that leaked out of the engine or the manual would drip out instead of filling the housing and soaking the clutch disc. In your case, I would add together the pigsty to the case and then notice me a rubber expanding plug to fill the hole you have on the side to forbid h2o from entering the housing again.

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Sure looks like it's been standing most half total of water doesn't it?  Leon R  Cmo

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Yous are correct Alan.....It'southward pretty ugly....LOL

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i would be checking the transmission and irresolute the input seal with that much water in there

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Post Options Post Options Thanks (0) Thanks(0) Quote farmtoybuilder QuotePost ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2016 at 10:28am

Add pigsty to bottom and plug the side hole! In japan they run in rice paddies in water up to pes boards and such. Most compacts had a bleed plug in bottom. Agree with changing seals and brgs also!

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think i would  likewise practice the rear main seal also

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Joe thanks....i was pretty much planning on calculation a pigsty and a plug, only i wouldn't have thought of the cotter pin to help keep it open up and deter the mud daubers.

  Yep, you lot can certainly see the loftier water marker.

I had to bleed the hydraulics to split it, which is too the manual fluid, and surprisingly the hydraulic oil looks OK;  engine oil looks ok on the dipstick too.

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Here's the same shot on mine.

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Mine is SN.1587, one of the showtime off the boat. The clutch actuator arm that sticks out the side is dissimilar than mine, looks a trivial "improvised" compared to mine.

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go to Lowe's in the plumbing section, expandable drain plug volition make full the hole

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Ours are solid in that spot on the housing.

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eric, thanks for the picture show.  except for the hole, i recollect ours are the same.  BTW, i'yard serial number 1369.....must have pushed in line for the boat a bit ahead of yours.....


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Good day to you! I realize this is an former thread and I'm a very late comer, however, I've just purchased a 5020, from a neighbor - that's had information technology sitting for a few years, and it appears to have a slipping clutch. It's performance as a rear-wheel-drive tractor now, due to lack of available parts, and this is acceptable, for at present; it price me $400.
I had the thought, yesterday, to ask someone that'south replaced a clutch in my model, before undertaking the task myself. The AC repair manual describes a very straightforward process which seems a little too unproblematic. I'd like to become a clearer film of the chore involved before undertaking it, which I volition schedule for this Winter. So, please let me know if you're interested in chatting about this.
Thank yous! Michael, Eugene, Or.

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Michael

changing the clutch itself wasn't too bad.  it was more than of a project disconnecting everything to dissever the tractor.  i practise besides call back some annoying bolts at the top of the bell housing.  hydraulic lines were a pia too...accept your time, yous'll be fine

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Thanks for the encouragement. I've washed a lot of automotive and other mechanics, information technology'south only that this is a new blazon of beast for me. I may contact you, in the future - when the job gets underway, if I encounter any snags that don't brand sense - which probably won't happen. Thanks once more for the encouragement.
Sincerely: Michael Neukirchen, Eugene, Or.

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